Episode #1 – Hailey and Jon


Figuring out all the nuts and bolts of this podcasting stuff has taken a bit more time and energy than I had expected. I hope this first episode is up to snuff for y’all.

Meeting with John and Hailey was a bunch of fun. They are fantastic human beings, and together make a fantastic couple. The day we did this interview was their 3-year anniversary from the day they first met. I don’t think they’ve ever looked back since.

The thing that I took away from chatting with these two is the importance that trust and understanding are in a relationship. It’s not true love when you only love the good parts of someone. You have to love them in their entirety… warts and all.And likewise, to be loved, we must be willing to put it all out on the line. If we hold back and hide parts of ourselves from those we love, it’s a sign of distrust.

One day I hope to have the type of vulnerability and trust in a relationship that I know John and Hailey have. I admire their bravery, their selflessness, and over all, their love for each other.

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Have a lovely week.

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  • So glad I’ve found this project! I’m enjoying it a lot already. 🙂 I think there’s an interesting question here though: is it sustainable to so completely rely on just one other person for stress relief/support at the end of the day, as they talked about? Codependence is obviously such an asset, especially with this couple, but as individuals, sometimes we can’t take on another person’s burdens for a sustained period. In that sense, it’s good that they both take time apart when they’re in a conflict, and affirm each other so much.

    I think it’s important to be independent enough to get our strength from ourselves and places outside the marriage/relationship, in order to respect our partner’s emotional limits. I hope these two are able to sustain themselves for the long haul, because they are obviously very reflective and supportive about their relationship.

    It sounds dangerous that John says, “If you’re not happy, then get out of the situation.” He kind of turns it around after that, though. After all, being uncreative by getting out is how divorce happens…! So glad you called out the “escape hatch” issue, Nate. There is a blurry line between unhappy situations that can work out and abusive situations that need to end.

    • Lisa

      Nothing is wrong with leaning on your spouse but you have to do in a healthy way.